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Posted: Oct 21st 2008 2:39PM Mr Angry said

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Please post you Warhammer Fanboi nonsense below the line, thanks


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Posted: Oct 21st 2008 3:11PM (Unverified) said

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How about: Mr. Angry is a paint eating, douche, who couldn't add a constructive opinion to any conversation, even if he was lured with the proposition of his daddy diddling him just one. more. time.

Is that a WAR fanboi, or Anti-dipshit? you can pick. Either is fine w/ me :)
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Posted: Oct 21st 2008 3:21PM Mr Angry said

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...and that concludes our study into the behavioral inadequacies on people who do actually get angry about computer games.

Thanks for watching!
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Posted: Oct 21st 2008 3:41PM (Unverified) said

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You're a tower in France.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2008 2:43PM TheJackman said

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Blizzard does not really have to fear Warhammer online like they say there self 50% of the people that left WoW for this game did return and I was 1 of them. My reasons are my own so I will not detail here why but my main reason was that I missed my friends of WoW.

They did not care much for WAR like they finally where ready to do some raiding and had no interest to start over from 0.

But I got to say Blizzard did change a lot of there stands:

1. They allow pve to pvp transfers now...
2. They did give Patch release dates for ones!
3. Game Masters answer tickets a lot of more fast.
4. it look like they finally start listen to players.

I do not known of Warhammer is the reason of this changes but its weird that all this started 1 week before Warhammer was release!

I like to say thanks to Jacobs and Jeff for there Warhammer marketing and make WoW a better game... Please keep working on WAR so that I can join a big and stable game in a few months from now!

Posted: Oct 21st 2008 2:47PM Lethality said

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Mark Jacobs is an absolute tool, and he's in denial if he things anything Blizzard does is in "response" to something in Warhammer. They may see good ideas and improve on them, but nothing is "reactionary"

My god that guy is hungry for publicity for his game, that is currently missing the mark on sales and attrition.


Posted: Oct 21st 2008 2:55PM (Unverified) said

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I've never liked Mark Jacobs, even back before the launch of DAoC. He is inconsistent with what he says and he believes that his company are the evolutionary designers and everyone follows in their wake.

Is WAR that bad that he has to say that Blizzard copied them? Umm,, yeah, it is actually. I'd rather go back to the unbalancefest that is DAoC than play WAR.

Posted: Oct 21st 2008 3:02PM (Unverified) said

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As someone who liked Warhammer Mark Jacobs has entirely turned me off from playing anymore and was the last straw to the bugs and instability that made the game more tooth-grinding than fun. I've found him commenting directly on way too many forums and blogs, including simple guild forums!, to think of him as anything but a serious child. To think he had a career of this before I'd even heard of him is scary.

And I think the claims of copying are kindof silly too when Wrath has been in development for a year and Warhammer just came out last month. Blizzard announced things like their new PvP zone well before Warhammer was released, but at the end of the day neither of them are really unique at all.

Posted: Oct 21st 2008 3:08PM (Unverified) said

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I don't disagree about Mark Jacobs' immaturity, but you do realize WAR had been in development for like, 3 years before it actually got released..? You talk like WoW's the only thing that goes through a development stage, while WAR totally skipped it and went straight to release. If you want to compare, a lot of WAR stuff was leaked/announced before we even heard there was going to be a WotLK.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2008 3:21PM (Unverified) said

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Right, it was in development under a closed beta and NDA'd participation, while I remember reading about Wrath's Lake Winter-whatever on their site sometime last year, out in the open.

So I don't really think that's an equal comparison.

I don't recall reading anything leaked about Warhammer until last year, when I first heard about it to begin with and was disappointed that it wasn't 40k instead of the fantasy stuff.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2008 3:23PM (Unverified) said

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Silly comment system, both of those Joshua comments were from me, ignore the last name. :p
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Posted: Oct 21st 2008 3:20PM (Unverified) said

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HOLY CRAP!! When will people start remembering that World of Warcraft ALREADY had ways to level through pvp! You used to be able to turn in three BG tokens at a time at a quest giver, and you got experience. This was taken OUT of the game when the old honor system changed prior to The Burning Crusade release.

WoW if not copying WAR if Blizzard puts that sort of system back into the game. If anything, it's the other way around, WAR copying an old feature of WoW.

Yes, I leveled a lot on my first WoW character this way, and my entire 40s xp was from turning in BG tokens.

Posted: Oct 21st 2008 6:15PM Jesspiper said

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In all fairness, WAR's xp in PvP comes from its ancestor: DAoC, which Blizzard took a lot out of to make their own PvP system (such as leveling through PvP and Honor/Renown).

I'm no fan of Jacobs and his inexcusable arrogance, but DAoC does deserve credit for some considerable PvP innovations, just as EQ deserves credit for what it did for PvE.

WoW's credit lies in amalgamating both successfully.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2008 4:12PM (Unverified) said

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I know a lot of people who can't stand Mark Jacobs and that's exactly why I like him. He's opinionated, sticks to his guns, and puts out a quality product. I don't need the CEO of an MMORPG company to be likeable. I just need them to put out something worth playing. For me Blizzard did just that four years ago, and Mythic is doing it today.

Wishy-washy-ness is what sunk Vanguard, what sank Age of Conan, and what has led to the year-by-year watered down of WoW to a game with one very confused identity crisis. But they're still managing to get 1.5 million Western players and 8.5 million Asian players to jump through those hoops, so no sweat off their backs.



Posted: Oct 21st 2008 4:39PM Solidkjames said

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No one really cares who copies who as long as both games get better. The one thing WoW has not done is improve their game horizontally because they have had no competition. Arena's and more dungeons did nothing to increase the game imo. If anything Mark has made Blizzard get off their lazy asses and get involved with their community for the first time in 4 years. That in itself is an accomplishment, we were asking for Open World pvp from launch and Blizzard laughed and said "NO" . Now a game comes out that focuses on it and behold OPEN WORLD PvP. Blizzard has been lazy for too long and I think it was in part due to they were waiting on a game that would force them to react. I'm glad they have as I might resubscribe again someday.

Alot of the people who post on here didn't play WoW til after TBC launced ruined the core game but hopefully Northrend will be a better zone than the half ass job they did with the last expansion. Alot of you hate Mark but alot of others hate Blizzard from changing their initial vision of WoW and catering to the crybabies. WoW's pvp will never match WAR just like WAR's pve will never match WoW's. WoW will never have to worry about a game taking theirs out of first place until something launches in Asia that hurts them. That is where 3/4th of their subscribers live. But here in the US there are enough players to go around for both games without grown men acting like 3 year olds over who has the biggest ding ding.

Posted: Oct 21st 2008 5:09PM (Unverified) said

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It really astonishes me how petty some of the comments on this site can get.

I'm currently subscribed to both WAR and WoW. I play both casually, off and on for maybe an hour or two a night. I love the fact that they're both taking the best elements from each other, and adapting them to their own style of content. WAR was the best thing to happen to WoW, and vis-versa. Healthy competition does wonders for end consumers, as is already apparent with the latest content patches for both games.

At the end of the day as an end user, I could care less about who got what idea from where. As long as I'm having a better time because of it, everything else is just water under the bridge.

Posted: Oct 21st 2008 5:58PM (Unverified) said

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I just wish blizzard would stop spending my money on things like Hair Cuts and Fest and come up with something innovative. Thats why i will stick with WAR. They wont spend my money on crap or useless.

Posted: Oct 21st 2008 5:40PM (Unverified) said

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Dear Mr. Angry,

Please keep up the good work. Your tireless efforts in proficiently and eloquently demeaning the massively community could be considered to some a new field of science. Your endless walls of text that only the brave dare to challenge truly have all us, clearly inferior, pasty faced nerds, who don't understand whats really going on shaking in our jinco jeans. I consider it an honor to be under your wisdom, and as one of your biggest fans I sincerely urge you to keep up the good work, as every post brings you one step closer to moving out of your parents basement, and finally getting promoted to head of the shoe department at KMART.

LOVE NEUROSE

Posted: Oct 21st 2008 6:54PM wjowski said

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Is anyone really surprised? Blizzard's games have always tended towards evolutionary over revolutionary.

Posted: Oct 21st 2008 8:57PM JohnD212 said

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Off subject but I LOVE WoW's new shadows....they are incredible...the way they move when you're under a tree....I didn't realize real shadows would add so much to the game but they have....nice job Blizzard.
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