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Posted: Oct 21st 2008 7:44PM (Unverified) said

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Hahaha, don't you just love this game!

Posted: Oct 21st 2008 8:48PM Kamokazi said

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I know, it makes me wish I had time to play it. It reads more like a real world scandal. I wish there was a fantasy MMO similar to EVE.
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Posted: Oct 22nd 2008 10:43AM (Unverified) said

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I'm always amused that people who get scammed are as upset as they become once they learn they've been duped.

Always invest what you can lose. Otherwise EVE will be a harsh mistress to you.

Oh, and loved the video by the way. Wasn't aware of it. Nice to put a face to a scam!

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Posted: Oct 22nd 2008 11:31AM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, the EIB scammer -- that's the only time I'm aware of that someone ripped off people in EVE and followed it up with a real-life confession as kind of a slap in the face.

There was some dispute over how much was actually taken with the EIB scam, and iirc the figures stated were exaggerated or inaccurate.

GHSC, while their isk take on the heist was lower, stands as being more significant in a number of ways. First off, it was an elegant crime. The planning, the sheer commitment involved with the undertaking, the PR gloss with the press release/RP angle, and of course the infamous PC Gamer account of it all. It was as close to perfection as it could be. Also, the isk value of the BPOs may not have had such a huge value attached to them by our standards now, but factor in isk inflation over the years since and I'd imagine it's still quite a score.

EIB seemed clumsy by comparison. More of a crime of opportunity. Significant in terms of the raw isk value, yes, but really it still doesn't compare to the Ubiqua Seraph job.

This latest one for est. 200 billion isk, really that's a good haul but it's not so different than any other hangar/division wallet theft, just on a far greater scale given that it's Destructive Influence's assets.

Honestly wonder if they'll wardec anyone who harbors him after this.
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Posted: Oct 22nd 2008 6:38PM Graill440 said

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Incredibly old news, why was it even posted again?

This does nothing more than reinforce EVE's play as being childish with no consequence.

One thing folks fail to take into account in the thought process is one sided scams have no merit. it takes less than an ants brain (look at the video poster) to gain confidence over the internet behind the protection of a monitor and another thing entirely if your character could actually be meanigfully punished for the crime if caught in the act or folks knew where you lived.

EVE fails at being a serious game for many reasons and is on par with disneys POTC inboth game play and lack of consequence.

Posted: Oct 22nd 2008 7:20PM (Unverified) said

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Possum, the DICE theft just happened the other day.

I mentioned the EIB scam in the post as an aside, just to clarify what was quoted from EVE Tribune, as "EVE Bank" and "EVE Intergalactic Bank" are two different things. The link to the older post/video confession were just to emphasize this.

I think we've been down this road before in an older post, but there *is* a consequence to being a corp thief, it's just not governed by game mechanics. It's a social consequence. He may have more isk than the Amarrian god, but what good is that if your character won't be accepted by a new corp, or if every corp you join is repeatedly obliterated upon undock for even harboring you?

If you blend real life consequences into the game, ie people knowing where you live, it kind of ceases to be a game at that point. Although with really large amounts of isk, that information is certainly requested from a player to help mitigate the risk.

My view on this is that when you play the game, it's implicit that you can be swindled, betrayed, suicided... the list goes on. It's part of the draw to the game, really. That element of uncertainty or risk. No doubt for some, eating glass would be preferable to playing a game that's like Mos Eisley with a corporate veneer, but it's got its fans... as does Pirates of the Caribbean, I'd imagine. ;)

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