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Posted: Jun 25th 2008 1:47PM (Unverified) said

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Blizzard buying LL? Sorry, I don't see much of a fit there; Blizzard is already making money hand over fist with WoW, which is completely different technology. And why would EA close down what's left of TSO just to snap up LL? That makes no sense either.

IBM as a buyer...maybe, though something like "SL Enterprise Edition" is more possible, and it DOES make sense for LL (they need to get into the private virtual-worlds market before the OpenSim folks drink their milkshake). Other possible buyers I can think of: Google (might work), Micro$oft (NOOOO!!! GOD, NOOOO!!!).

I don't think it's an IPO either. The business climate just isn't right for that at the moment.

So I guess I'd bet on the IBM/LL "SL Enterprise Edition" for now. I'm not sure what all is coming down the pike in the way of new tech for SL that we don't already know about.
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Posted: Jun 25th 2008 3:54PM (Unverified) said

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My guess is either allowing us to buy our own names in SL, an IPO since Mark/M has experience with IPOs or a merger with someone like HiPiHi. Didn't Philip make several trips to China last year? If it is a sales announcement, I wonder what all the whiney negative complainers will do without LL to kick around anymore. A new owner will most likely be more strict and less tolerant than LL. Perhaps our care free days are coming to an end. Unfortunately we won't know it until its too late.
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Posted: Jun 25th 2008 4:37PM (Unverified) said

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Whee, speculation is fun! But I don't think the pieces fit together into one coherent announcement.

1. Major, semi-secret changes to the viewer.
2. Server upgrade 1.23 around the time of the announcement.
3. Mitch Kapor delivering the closing keynote for SL5.
4. Mitch's involvement with 3D camera tech.
5. Mitch has denied that an IPO was on the table.

(I'm discarding this week's rolling restart as irrelevant. The announcement says "a few security patches and bug fixes", and the timing is totally wrong.)

Given that Kapor is (we assume) presenting the announcement, it's either corporate or tech related. (It's not going to be "free ponies for all Residents"; Philip would be the one to announce that.)

If it's corporate, and it's not an IPO, and Blizzard's not making World of Furcraft... then I'd bet on an LL & IBM partnership to offer private mini-grids to corporate clients, like IBM has for themselves. EXCEPT -- that wouldn't require any client-side changes, or a server upgrade, and Mitch wouldn't be the one to deliver it (he's no longer chairman of the board; although, he _is_ a big name).

If it's tech, and it's not Mono, which we've known about and which Prospero says won't be coming until 2 weeks after the keynote... then the 3D camera thingy would be a good bet. It would fit the major client changes and the Mitch Factor. But, it wouldn't need a server upgrade, unless there's more to it than what we saw in the video (moving your avatar around).

Most likely scenario that I can think of: It's the 3D camera, purely as a publicity stunt to get LL/SL back into the "innovative tech company" spotlight, instead of the "Furry BDSM pedophile platform" spotlight. The server upgrade is unrelated to the announcement, and is simply preparation before Mono is rolled out, as Prospero says.

Second most likely scenario: More public self-stimulation of LL's ego while the press watches. Mitch's big announcement? "These guys rock my socks!" ;-)
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Posted: Jun 25th 2008 5:09PM (Unverified) said

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I'm for tech based revolution (comparatively) tied to a strategic partnership to legitimize the technology. I wouldn't be surprised to see it as some kind of extension of the crossworld api and "on your own grid" stuff that IBM have been helping with.

This year LL's pulled our of mothballs a bunch of technologies we haven't seen used for anything (avatar pupeteering anyone) and licensed a bunch of tech they probably don't want to see in the client (other animation tech they can't opensource but could use serverside). We know they have engineers on them. That points to middleware development to me.

We know the sl client isn't far off dealing with arbitrary meshes (from open grid), possibly boned (avatar pupeteering) and that the toolkit for moving between grids is in beta. SL is a lot closer to being a hub for inter-world avatars than most people realize.

-- begin wild speculation --
I'll go out on a really long limb here and guess that LL is positioning itself as a middleware provider for joining virtual worlds. Based on their own technology first up (to provide a world to connect private sl tech based firewalled grids). Later on the strategy would be to carry avatars and assets in and out of sl to other mmo technologies. Agni (or post agni) would become a gateway world.
-- end wild speculation --

This would also gel with the amount of crazy tinkering they've been doing to our fragile grid under the hood over the last few months. We know they've been preparing for off grid asset storage and transfer, as well as developing a scripting abstraction layer (in mono) which would allow them to migrate code from other systems. They could quite easily have been installing the foundations for radical developments in their own private grid which we've not seen even in beta.

Just my two cents... well actually i've got ten bucks riding on it... Long shot but meh. :P
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Posted: Jun 25th 2008 9:29PM (Unverified) said

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if you are in SLDEV, check the surveymonkey they sent out today.. especially questions re LL
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Posted: Jun 26th 2008 2:49PM (Unverified) said

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@Pavig: I don't think that's too far off. We already know of some SL avatars who have "set foot" on another grid, and moves to referring to the "Second Life Grid" imply same. There's been some action on figuring out the protocol for cross-grid SLURLs. IBM has their own firewalled Grid. These pieces do fit together.
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Posted: Jun 26th 2008 12:13PM (Unverified) said

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Meh, I think they will pull the old switch trick, people will teleport to the announcement, and end up on the beta grid, grid teleport!

it would be a lot like god forcefully passing you through the gates of heaven to just say "Behold the mighty powers that be!" you would be in complete awe.


Meh, other then that I cannot see what the big announcement could be.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 3:57AM (Unverified) said

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I'm with Jacek, possibly is an announcement just trying to show LL as a technological advanced company instead of a world of "depravation".
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 11:27AM (Unverified) said

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I'm sorry to have to put a damper on your speculation fun, but do want to make sure you know that you're heading down the wrong path! Anyone believing rumors of our sale, to another company or to the public, is bound to be pretty disappointed. :)
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:32PM (Unverified) said

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Spill the beans!!!

We are the internet generation. Patience is waiting for a page load, not a whole week for a speech...
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 12:33AM Joystiq Login Bugs SUCK said

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Based on words from Dusty Linden to the Kids "All this won't matter in two years anyway" I am going for the release of a portion of the simulator code.

There is also the REX viewer enhancements that allow inter-grid TP, scripted too.

Me? I've pretty much already left and now am building my region in OpenSim as I am seeing the death of SL either way.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:49AM (Unverified) said

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"I am seeing the death of SL either way."

Funny how people keep seeing that, year after year. It's kind of like nuclear fusion: always arbitrarily far in the future.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:56AM (Unverified) said

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Well, doomsaying's kind of an easy out. Nothing lasts forever, and as long as you don't put a time-limit on it, you'll be right _eventually_.

It's rare to see any virtual world last ten years, though.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:30PM (Unverified) said

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true enough. I rather expect most of SL will be offshored into a variety of grids within 10 years. The core of SL, or rather LL, will still exist, imo, but only as a service providing organ, which is prety much what LL says it wants. Whether this counts as SL "dying" or simply being transformed is, I suppose, a matter of perspective.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:58AM (Unverified) said

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I remember people saying it was going to die when I first joined back in 2003 o.o
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 8:40AM (Unverified) said

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just read that BILL GATES leaves microsoft today....?

omygod, they wouldn't... would they???
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Posted: Jun 28th 2008 5:54AM (Unverified) said

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Glad to see your comment Robin. And very glad to know that no sales are pending. Now you really have our curiosity up. Just what could it be? Flat tiers? Return of First Land? Increased tier sizes? Lifetime memberships? Hmmmm.
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Posted: Jun 28th 2008 6:29AM (Unverified) said

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Any votes for a resignation of some sort?
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Posted: Jun 29th 2008 5:40AM (Unverified) said

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I'll wait to read about it on Massively.
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Posted: Jul 1st 2008 5:46PM (Unverified) said

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Mozilla Foundation is to be renamed the Second Mozilla Foundation as Linden Lab is swallowed up whole under Mitch Kapor's umbrella. The open source Linden server code is released, and — surprise, surprise! — you can, after all, interconnect grids with the new code.

The mainland gets to be operated by IBM, who'll impose PG on the whole of it and prepares to massively bring in their millions of customers. Nobody will really complain, as there are more and more mature private islands, and these will get even more mature as they break free from the grasps of Californian law.

Linden employees will become Second Mozilla Foundation grantees or IBM employees, as per their choice. There won't be a sale. There won't be an IPO. Everybody's going to be very disappointed since most of the things will pretty much remain the same. They just will become better.

Oh, and yes, Mitch will do his presentation morphing his RL features on his avatar. Not unlike what was done for the Bedazzle Studios back in 2006 (anyone still remembers "Silver Bells and Golden Spurs"? http://www.archive.org/details/silverbellsandgoldenspurs), but much nicer, smoother, and cooler.
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