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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 2:18AM (Unverified) said

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Yay. Let it burn after what they did to it.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 5:55AM (Unverified) said

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no way, i was wondering where Trinity Coulter had gone, she was very helpful in the corner that the Kid Avatars are building. So far my exhibit there is going as planned with only one change needed. Most of us are working well with LL's concerns, their restrictions aint that much of a problem really so im puzzled as to why she was booted/left.

I Must add thought that have never been so stressed due to second life as i have been in the last 2 weeks. I cant wait for SL5B to be over :)
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 7:25AM (Unverified) said

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For some reason I'm reminded of this Salon article from a while back.
Apologies if is way off-topic. It has nothing to do with Second Life, but does talk about hysteria related to innocent photography of children.

http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/31/kincaid/index.html
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2006/07/18/photos/index.html

No pictures of kids next to beds? Sounds alot like the asinine photo development policy.

Back on topic...
I wonder what has been said behind-the-scenes to make LL so paranoid. Whatever it is, its definitely coming through in the form of irrational behavior.
We know that the laws related to this stuff are way out of proportion (refer to the "Every photo must pass this test" concept in the Salon article above). For that part, I don't blame LL one bit. They aren't prepared to go to the Supreme Court and fix this any more than I am. And my small service fees are not enough for me to justify demanding a better legal defense from them in the face of an executive branch that breaks laws to remove judges seem as too liberal and replace them with conservatives over the last 7 years. Perhaps that fully explains their paranoia.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 9:01AM (Unverified) said

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Fundamentally, I oppose the concept of "zero-tolerance". It simply begs for trouble. It implies that allowing any level of something to continue amounts to condoning or supporting it. Enforcers of zero-tolerance policies can never achieve their goal. Wherever they decide to stop short, due to costs or resources or just simply when they let that stubborn common sense kick back in, is the level of criminal or deviant or suspicious behavior that they "tolerate" by default. Accomplished reductions in whatever is being opposed are ignored as long as the level of whatever it is is above "zero." whatever that means. Nevertheless, "zero-tolerance" sounds so reasonable on the surface. This is what makes it so damned evil.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 9:39AM Joystiq Login Bugs SUCK said

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I still say that any kid avatar who supports the lab in the official birthday and allows them to jack boot them are very much like the Vichy Government.

Kids should be supporting kids, but then there are some power hungry ones like Loki and Geoff who *must* be in charge.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 10:35AM (Unverified) said

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Agreed with Adz.

Glad we don't have to bother with photo development labs anyway thanks to digital cameras.

As if a real child pornographer would use a public lab anyway. Those monsters used to develop their own pictures in a basement.

And while I think comparing with the Vichys is kinda extreme, I do believe Jay is correct as well.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 12:10PM (Unverified) said

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I'm glad I'm doing something with self-portraits -- but now I know what I'm doing with my Kids5B display. Time to look at my family photos!
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 12:39PM (Unverified) said

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At this point, may I suggest that the organizers of the Kids5B area provide some space for non-kid "refugees" from the Linden-meddled fiasco of SL5B? Residents helping residents and all that. Let the "official" event, ruined by Linden Lab, sputter, gutter, and die a whimpering death on its own while the press and general public looks on.

I'd strongly urge ALL exhibitors in that mess to bail out and leave LL with egg on their faces.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 1:10PM (Unverified) said

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"Epic" is right...but perhaps in the form "EPIC FAIL."

We have policies that have changed in arbitrary ways from the previous years of the Birthday event...and, in fact, seem to be continuing to change in arbitrary ways on a daily basis. And so far, we have NO explanation whatsoever for the rationale behind these changes from the Lindens. Am I totally off base here, or should even a blind man be able to see a BIG problem with this?

We're all adults here, LL, even if some of us look like kids. Try talking to us like adults.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2008 12:53AM (Unverified) said

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I know that you know how much dedication and perseverance it takes to run an event like this Tateru. I wish the virtual ink at Massively would run with reports of the dedication that people have given to this event. I respect you greatly as a resident, and I know your heart is in the right place, but I want people to know that we have a group of people who really care about residents that have given their time in spades to make this event a success.

There will always be those whom we cannot please, those who might look at even the most perfect thing and call it worthless. But why do that? We're imagining a new world, based on creativity and innovation. The birthday is about celebrating. Are we going to be those kids who complain when we don't get 37 presents like Harry Potter's cousin, or will we happily accept the present as given? I personally think there are a lot of truly amazing things coming at SL5B and its a shame that the new world gets such mundane press.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2008 9:56AM (Unverified) said

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Thanks, Trinity. When you contacted me about a plot for the my planned Isle of Lesbos exhibit you clearly and politely addressed my concerns on the child avie issue. Your professional manner and obvious sympathy swayed me from boycotting to participating. The gay and lesbian community faces critics and discrimination, too, and you convinced me that not participating would not solve the current controversy. And now we have a nice forum for education at http://slurl.com/secondlife/SL5B%20Physical/243/31/23.

My only disappointment is that it was recommended that the barely visible nipples in some some classical painting on display might not be acceptable. Understandable in a PG sim but I winced with every stroke of the blur brush in Photoshop.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2008 6:38PM (Unverified) said

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Do udders count?
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Posted: Jun 14th 2008 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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why was it again exactly why LL decided to abdicate their host immunity thing?
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