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Posted: May 22nd 2008 10:45PM (Unverified) said

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I have to say I loved this piece. I might read it to my parents when I see them next. *winks*

I think at the end of the day we, as a bunch, are a bit too diverse to speak with one voice. I've actually promoted that message on some forums but ultimately got flamed. :P Which is typical in an oddly endearing way. Our playstyles vary almost infinitely. There are all sorts of gamers out there- there are plenty of hardcore gamers that totally eschew MMOs as a sick art- as this site showed recently, actually.

There are PvPers, Roleplayers, raiders, dungeon runners, soloists and mixtures of all the above. Hardcores, softcores, Molten Cores, casuals, and all the rest. Politically speaking, diverse groups *can* speak with one voice, naturally, but when it comes to speaking for a past time like gaming, some people may not think it worth the effort. A big chunk of people who play wouldn't want to be seen as taking it that seriously, as that might play into the hands of our enemies.

I feel that this generation will grow into the halls of power, just as the children of the Baby Boom and the start of the Cold War who were always threatened with having their comic books banned became the politicians of today. It won't be terribly long before we have presidents, prime ministers, chancellors, ministers, MPs, and senators who played WoW. Even as we speak, American congressmen are making bad jokes about WoW in a non threatening manner- so there's hope!

Like any new artistic medium, it will take time to be accepted. Back when they were new, even novels were excoriated as trash and unworthy of polite society. Now they're what today's highbrow say we should have our nose in as opposed to these games.

Time: A level 500 raid boss. None can defeat it. *winks*

Posted: May 26th 2008 5:58PM Nadril said

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I agree that it is going to take time for the medium to be accepted. As Quinnae said all mediums go through a stage where they are considered filth, and we just happen to be in that stage where video games is part of it.

I think that in 15 or 20 years time we'll see a lot more gamers in the media and in powerful positions -- and then I think we'll start to see gaming become a more recognized medium.


Either way the only other hurdle I've heard people talk about is the idea that games are not artistic as movies or books. Of course, as a gamer, I have to disagree. While it was true that 15 years ago games didn't have much to go on (although you could consider games such as pac man, donkey kong and other old-school games artistic) to 'wow' critics. Now with technology as it is game developers are able to express what they want much easier.

The best thing that some developers have taken advantage of is the fact that you can experience the story first hand. Instead of just being a bystander you have an effect, a voice so to speak, in what is going on. When more developers use this idea to its full extent (showing less cutscenes when they can) then it will be much more efficient.

For example, GTA 4. While it does have cutscenes to show some parts almost all of the major turning points in the storyline have you acting it out. Any of the executions YOU act out, and I think it helps much more than if you were just to watch it happen.

Posted: May 23rd 2008 8:10AM (Unverified) said

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Why don't you write a Gamer's Manifesto? :)

Posted: May 23rd 2008 9:25AM (Unverified) said

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Quinnae - you're right in that that kind of behaviour is endearing in a certain way, but it's also endearing to watch your baby nephew bounce of walls while he's learning to walk, but it does stop being funny eventually. Part of me loves that, as a community, we are ridiculously diverse and fragmented, but another part of me hates it because it's the same thing that's preventing us from coming together.

Nadril - the 'games as art' debate is one that I'm loathe to tackle. I agree that it will take time before games become more widely accepted, but I think it's going to take an awfule lot longer than it did for any other form of entertainment, due simply to the very nature of the medium.

suvana - Honestly, I don't think I'm the right person to even attempt that - if I did, I think you'd be able to see the flames from orbit :D

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