The Daily Grind: Which PvP do you want more: AoC or WAR?

PLEASE

I played on PVP servers in EQ(including the hardcore, lose all items and go back to lvl 1 "Discord" server), EQ2, and WoW. 2 of those 3 games had item loot when I played, and guess out of those three which had the best PVP?

The fact is people dont give a shit about getting some random item from a player who was running around killing bears and pigs. Most of the time the items you receive are worthless anyways. Even when you do get something useful/valuable, its still a worthless system without any content for PVPers to do. You either run to "hot spots" where people go to exp or you just wander around aimlessly looking for soloers. That is not fucking fun, Im sick and tired of that and I refuse to play any other game in PVP without them specifically designing content for it.(such as both AoC and WAR are doing)

So please, nobody gives a shit about you not liking these games because of some pathetic loot system in pvp that doesnt add much fun factor to the game as compared to the devs spending hours and hours designing content for us to do in pvp. If they removed their PVP content in favor of a retarded, pointless loot system I would never even give the game a chance.

No more PVP without content for me. Its just too boring.

Honestly, play EVE. You want hardcore, that's pretty hardcore. Nothing more fun than losing your ship and 10 times its value in fittings. In EVE fights you shake.

Now I always thought I wanted to be that type of super-hardcore PvP player, and really I do sometimes. But other nights losing all my crap and hours upon hours of work is beyond irritating. I loved DAoC (except the bugs that killed it for me, and later the population loss), and I think I'll love WAR. I honestly don't care for how they have so many scenarios, but it may be better than I thought.

Conan looks like EVE PvP without the risk, so my vote is for WAR. Realm Ranks and the powers that come with them are a great reward, even if there is little risk.

not waiting several months for one skill train pwned

Which is half the reason I quit. I eventually hit the wall of only having 1 month+ skills to do. At which point the game was no longer fun because it didn't matter how much I played, I never got any better.

But the fact still remains that its pvp-wise, its exactly the game BigCountry is looking for, provided he digs the sci-fi.